Hehe, I told my JW coworker that if we want Armageddon to happen then we all need to get drunk and stay drunk because of Luke 21:34 that says that if we drink then the day will be "instantly upon" us.
He was UNAMUSED!!!
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Did you get tired of waiting for Armageddon
by karter ini was around in 1975 then it was the generation that saw 1914 .. armageddon was always just about there ............... i got tired of waiting.
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What's your success rate?
by Mrs Smith inhow many of you have managed to get your jw friends and family to see that it's not "the truth"?
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My JW partner at work and I have "discussed" a few things- me showing him the stupidity of some JW doctrines and him trying to defend the bORG. I think he sees it but all of his family and friends are JWs and he's comfortable being in the bORG for now, so it doesn't go very far. I believe it's making him think, though.
For now I'm concentrating on my kids- VERY CAREFULLY!! In fact, yesterday we were watching an old documentary on WW2, and in it they said that Hitler, Mussolini, and (the guy ruling Japan at the time) all told their people NOT to think for themselves but to just trust them without question. Sound familiar? The people did, and look what happened! I also told my daughter that she does NOT have to answer at the meetings (her mother tries to force her, guilt her, or bribe her to) and that she's not going to be destroyed by God if she doesn't. I also told my son that the elders are just regular men like me and that they only look more "spiritual" because they get to go up and give talks. I told him that you can't measure a person's "spirituality" by their hours in filed service or meeting attendance. It's a personal and private thing between you and God. I think it made him think without prematurely setting off any internal "alarms" he's had placed in him. So far, so good... -
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Where do you hide your apostate literature?
by Hiddenwindow insince some of us are still active and have to hide our so-called apostate literature, i am curious about where some of you keep it.
i have to leave it at my workplace.
i manage, however, to have one book at home.
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I don't hide my apostate literature. I keep all Watchtowers and Awakes in plain sight of everyone! My CoC book, however, stays face- down on my nightstand!
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Some questions that I didnt find the answer as a JW Part 1
by tooktheredpill inhaving been raised in the truth, i thought that i had all the answers in the watchtower publications.
but as i started really reading the bible without filters, a lot of stuff started to appear that made no sense to me.
1) genesis 2:2: and by the seventh day god came to the completion of his work that he had made, and he proceeded to rest on the seventh day from all his work that he had made.. .
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Why does the bible speak plenty about the bad guys (the serpent, Great Dragon, Babylon the Great, the wild beast, the harlot, etc...) in reference to the last days but only ONE mention, in a parable, of the "faithful and discreet slave", to whom it is absolutely vital to be immovably loyal to?
Why does almost every illustration of the death of Jesus show a single nail through his wrists, when in John 20:25 Thomas clearly says "nails" (plural) and "hands" (not wrists)?
If the 144,000 can be any race or nationality, the Jews were no longer a favored nation, and God does not show partiality, then why does Jesus refer to Gentiles as "dogs" in Matthew 15:26?
Why do the gospel accounts of Jesus' death and resurrection differ on these points;
1. Depending on which account you read, the two Marys who went to the tomb on the third day saw either one or two angels.
2. The one angel they saw was either on top of the stone that sealed the entrance or inside the tomb on the right hand side.
3. They either went back to the disciples and told them all that they had seen and heard, or they were too fearful to say anything at all.
4. The disciples either thought the Marys were talking nonsense for a while or they heard and immediately went to the tomb.
If the star above Jesus' birthplace was put there by Satan to lead the would- be spies to Jesus, then why didn't they do their job, and why did they bring gifts? Couldn't the star have been placed there by God since He already knew that the "astrologers" wouldn't betray Jesus to Herod? Why didn't Herod's people or Herod himself notice the star? Wouldn't it have been easier for Satan to use the star to lead an assassin to Jesus?
If Noah's ark landed on Mt Ararat, then how did kangaroos get to Australia without leaving any evidence that they existed anywhere else on earth?
If Kingdom Halls didn't exist in the first century, then how can we interpret "Do not forsake the gathering of yourselves together" to mean that we MUST attend the meetings at the Kingdom Hall and not anywhere else that Christians may gather? Further, wasn't the whole point of the "gathering" to upbuild and encourage, not to be fed "new light"? (Heb 10:24, 25)
How could Lot be a righteous man after offering his daughters to a mob of homo rapists?
How could God kill Lot's wife for wanting to see the most awesome fireworks show this planet has ever seen?
Why didn't God kill Lot's daughters for getting him drunk and essentially raping him (sexual immorality) when He'd just wiped out two entire cities for the same offense? (Evidently, watching fireworks is worse than raping your father!)
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Can I forbid my ex to see my son???
by babygirl75 inbefore i start, i know a lot of you will say for me to consult an attorney, but just wanted to see if any of you have had to deal with this..... i have primary custody of my son.
my ex was ordered to pay child support the first of each month.
well i hardly ever see a dime of it unless i call him and have to bitch him out to send the state a payment for child support.
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I am a loooooong way from reading all the responses to this question, but I know a thing or two about this subject. First of all, custody/visitation is a separate issue from child support. That kid needs to learn things on his own, including the fact that his father doesn't pay what some judge, using someone's (Lord knows who) guidelines, told him he legally had to pay, regardless of whether or not it was realistically feasible! 99 times out of 100 you will find that the person paying child support thinks it's too much and the person receiving it thinks it's too little, unless you reverse the situation, then suddenly, like magic, opinions change! Everyone I know who is in the position of having to pay child support is living below the standard that their income would allow if the children were still living with them. It is much more affordable and practical to take care of a child in one's home than it is to pay a hunk out of each paycheck to someone else to do it. Plus it takes the fun out of it, so in that regard I completely understand your ex's actions in buying toys for his son. It is, in my opinion, far better than paying you to do it! If you feel there are things your son needs, why not tell his father to take him shopping for a few cool shirts for school or some neat pants to wear? Build it up to your son and get him excited about it, and mention that he should suggest it to his father! Then he'll be getting something more than non- payment of child support and toys!
It seems in almost every case that parents forget what life is like for the child. They were meant to be raised in a family environment! A man and woman divorce each other, but the kids still have the right to live normal lives as much as possible! You should ask yourself constantly, "What would today be like for (your child's name here) if (the other parent) and I were still together?" AND THEN MAKE THAT HAPPEN TO THE BEST EXTENT POSSIBLE! Besides, you and your ex are apart, and you can't change him. Your son will grow in wisdom as he gets older and see his father for who he is, but he will still ALWAYS LOVE HIM!!! And THAT should matter to you more than anything else!!! And by the way- how could you even think that another man, no matter how great you think he is, could replace your child's father??? Loser or not, your child's father IS his father figure and always should be. If he's a bad influence, then your job is to put more positive influences into your son's life to counter it, but don't ever think that they can replace his real father. Believe it or not, your ex has just as much right to influence HIS son as you do, for better or for worse! If he's such a bad guy, then ask yourself why you got with him and had a child with him in the first place! If you feel he's a bad influence, then all you can do is your own version of "damage control", but you have no right to try to remove or replace him as your son's father! BOTH of you have a right to teach the child your own values and opinions, no matter how bad either of you think the others' is! To do otherwise hurts your son, not your ex! Your son has the right to form his own opinions about his parents, so let him! You will thank yourself later for it, and so will he!
The real question you should ask is, "SHOULD I forbid my ex to see my son?" The answer, no matter how emotionally charged you are, no matter the circumstances, is a resounding "NO!"
Just for fun, find out what your state's child support guidelines are and put yourself in your ex's shoes. If you're unemployed, then use what he makes when considering your income. Find out what you would be paying if it were YOU paying CS instead of him, and then add that to the rest of your normal bills and expenses. Your life would be very different financially, wouldn't it? Then your ex would call you a loser, and to top it all off, you would only get to see your flesh and blood, who loves you unconditionally, every other weekend...
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Do you consider your time as a JW wasted time??
by karter inmany of us have devoted a lot of time and energy to the jw's at the expense of other things like education , planing for retirement , family time just to name a few.. i don't consider it all wasted time there was a lot of good i learnt however i'm doing things now as a jw i never would have.. i don't have the same time pressure and never fell guilty about taking a lot of time out for myself as one elder said to me"if we don't keep you brothers real busy in the work of the kingdom you get swallowed up by the world" .
karter.
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Mostly, because the things I did to improve myself (stop using bad language, try to live a cleaner lifestyle, etc...) were things I did for me & my family, not because the WTS said to. I didn't have any nasty habits or get drunk all the time so I'm still pretty much who I was before I got into the bORG. The one thing I can credit to being in the bORG is that my bible knowledge has improved and I have come to realize that most people are no more "enlightened" than I am. I used to consider myself a "spiritual dunce" and that I just didn't "get it" like most people. Now I know that there's really nothing to "get", just live peacefully and be nice! I consider all the time spent in field circus and at meetings was a waste, with the exception of the meetings where I sat there reading the bible for me instead of listening to the talk & WT lesson or service meeting B$. The best thing I learned while being a JW was that they're deceptive, but that only took about 2 months for me to come to that conclusion, so I wish I could have the other 7 years back!
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Did you have any self righteous holier than though in your congro??
by karter inwe moved to a new congro when we got married there was a pioneer couple who looked down on anyone who wasn't as good as them.. my wife was pioneering i was working my butt off trying to save some money to buy a house (we did) these 2 looked down on anyone who brought anything nice ,we found out they were running down to the welfare for a free handout at the expense of hard working people like me just to look good.. take away the label pioneer they would probably support themselves.. another solo mum living on welfare used to rave on how she pioneered lets face it having the state pay you to bring up one child she had plenty of time on her hands.. i was working on council houses and helped her get one even helped her move into it ,soon after she married the father of her child (he became a jw) after the help my wife & i had given her we didnt get an invite to the wedding they only invited elders , ms , regular pioneers one of my mates who was a pioneer said '' don't know why they invited me don't even know them''.
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fast forward after much , much ass licking (you had to see it to believe it ) he became an elder only to be removed a few months later.
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My ex wife always had (and still has) the "holier than thou" disposition, which is especially evident since she was recently reinstated. She visited her old congregation immediately as if her being reinstated was some kind of glorious return that would involve rolling out the red carpet, etc... I laughed when hardly anyone even spoke to her!!
The worst, though, is our PO, by FARRRR!!!!!!!! On top of being a judgmental a$$, he's a perfectionist. EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE who ever worked for him ends up hating his guts until they get pounded with the "our brothers are imperfect, we should be forgiving" shpeel... -
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U 2 - What Are Your Favorite Songs and Albums from Them ?
by flipper inwell, this is one of 2 groups i will post tonight .
i'll post my other favorite current group later as i have to go to dinner.
but u 2 is one of my favorite current active groups performing still.
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Was once asked what album I'd like to have if stranded on a deserted island and I chose U2- Joshua Tree, hands down!!!!! Running to Stand Still, baby!!!
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NEW SCROLLS ANNOUNCED
by tula inso that this will be no surprise to you, and so you will not be swayed in your firm stand of holy spirit truth, i give you this.. .
in the coming months expect to hear this in the kh and the mags..... "for those of you who have heard of the association of the wts and the un and have patiently and faithfully waited on jehovah, we can now tell you our reasons for doing this.
it has all been under the direction of the fds.. this library card was necessary because..... there are very old manuscripts that have never been deciphered and they have been housed within that library.. through much prayer and careful consideration, jah directed for our team of translators, which are the best and most accurate in the world, to be a part of this great uncovering of the new scrolls.".
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SO will they change their name to "Supreme Being's Witnesses"?
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Do you guys remember the big push to baptize kids?
by isnrblog init was in the 80's i think but they began stressing the urgency of baptism for anyone who was "at an age of understanding".
i heard several assembly talks that said kids under ten could be baptized if they qualified.. this sticks in my mind because my kids were 12 or so and not qualified in my view.
my ex wife pushed my daughter into baptism at 12, she is now 32, not a witness and we both laugh about it.. www.isnrblog.com.
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My 12 year old son is being pressured by our PO and other elders to get baptized. I was right there with them until I realized the WTS was a big scam. Now I'm trying to tell my son to wait until he's much older, but now that his scumbag mom is reinstated, I'm sure she'll rush him to get baptized so she can take the credit and look like a "wonderful, spiritual mother" to all in the bORG.